Subtext from TS doctor

[johmor]

Hello!
I have MythTV and want to edit mpeg transport stream. I can do that with TS Doctor in a good way.
I also want to get the subtext out of the file so I can convert to a more effectiv format.
I can get subtext in a file *.sup. But I can't use the file in Subtitle Extracor 1.03.2. It just says:
- No Subtitles found.

How to read/use the *.sup-file so I can read via OCR to a *.srt?

[Mam]

the bad news is: you probably can't use them 

The problem with those kind of sups is, that they are graphics and depend on the resolution of the video pic. I mean, even the same subs are different if the movie (of course the same one too    ) ist broadcasted on SD, HD or released on DVD or Bluray.
This should not be the biggest problem, but alas, I don't know ANY sub converter that allows different input formats. You can find some for SD, I also found a good one for BluRay, but none of them accepted a different format than they were supposed to.
And, sadly, I found none so far, that was able to deal with HD TV subs (maybe the bluray thing works for 1080i too, but none accepted 720p for now).

Your MythTV does simply record what the stations are broadcasting, so it depends on WHAT Channel you are recording from.

But, as already told in the beginning: usually you don't find any program that will be able to deal with them.

[johmor]

While I was waiting for a solution I tested Freemake with the video. I could convert to an avi-file with subtext. But it was wrong language. Freemake didn't tell me the correct language.
I'll test again and check that I just have one language so then it must be wright...

TS Doctor had listed all language correct from the beginning, but after cutting I should just save one.
It's strange that Freemake can use the language from the ts-file. Then there should be a way to make an useful subtext-file for some other program too....

[parru]

http://www.nikse.dk/SubtitleEdit
I use this to convert dvb-subs to srt.
Handles SD and HD streams.
Can also export dvb-sub to idx/sub but this has some problems (some sub-pictures are almost full black)

[Mam]

http://www.nikse.dk/SubtitleEdit

Great Hint!
It works!
Almost perfect (it does not support colour attributes yet, but anyway, it CAN READ THE SUBS, thats much better than all others before).

[Djfe]

Oh wow! This is awesome.
The best way I know to synchronize subtitles from ORF to the video track, yet.

Thx for sharing! Will use this tool always from now on.

[parru]

For those who like idx/sub more (or dont like to spend time with ORC, like me), the Subtitle Edit does, IMO, quite bad quality on idx/sub export but DB sup exported subtitles looks much better (same as in dvb-stream).
I did spend some time with this today to get better idx/sub (yesterday was 1st time i even did try idx/sub export).

I ended up 1st exporting subtiles as DB sup and then use BDSup2Sub (https://github.com/mjuhasz/BDSup2Sub/wiki) to convert sup to idx/sub. After this idx/sub subtitles looks same as dvb-stream (execpt size and position can be different but is fixable in BDSup2Sub)

Didnt test dvb-stream with colour subtitles.
Tested only with MPC-HC.
Maybe doing some research tomorrow if I have time and possibly contact Subtitle Edit author.

 

[Djfe]

you can simply open up tickets in the subtitle edit github repo if you have issues
https://github.com/SubtitleEdit/subtitleedit/issues

[johmor]

Today I tested the new version of Subtitle edit 3.3.15. Then I could rightclick and open an edited file (with TS doctor) and OCR-read subtext.
If I open *.sup from TS Doctor demux, the time code wasn't wright. Maybe some setting. But anyway, I could read subtext direct from *.ts file, so no problem. Justthe Swedish letter å which became a ....

I had to wait long time (more than 30s) to have the text-choise dialog to open....